This is frist time pair , father is inbred to 3RD Arona who is son DALI brother x daughter Golden Boxter Pipa Elite mated brother Dali .In my view best performing one loft line of Pipa Elite Center is Porche x Dali and his brothers On mother side , is Son 1423 my best with his own sister she is fast becoming the supper grandmother of good racing breeders , her grandchildren winning and breeding ,when 1423 mated to grandaughter 39 pair the best pair Cpt ever had , 9610 current best breeder@3495 his sister rated my best grandam breeding hen.